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  How Many Here EVER Considered Going Back To Meetings?

  by minimus in

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  once i left ,i was done.

  in over 10 years i didn't return except for my mother's funeral.

  did you ever re enter the kh after you left?.

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  days of future passed

  The last few meetings were excruciating. I had to keep my head down so no one saw my mouth drop open at the audacity of the Governing Body to use scriptures to boast about themselves. Have you ever experienced sleep walking? Where you believe you are at a certain place or doing something and it is real - until you realize that it can't be true and you are dreaming? The scene suddenly dissolves and you see what is really there.

  Going back would be like going to an episode of the Twilight Zone. You'd see people who don't know that they are in a never ending dream. Anyone see "Dark City"? Always riding the train trying to get to the beach and never arriving.
  
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  Make Your Excellent Point to a JW, But- Remember, it's a Mind Control Cult.

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  so i am reading from many that they have an excellent thought-stopper for jw's.

  (remember reasoning from the scriptures used "thought-stoppers?

  )"if you just show them [this scripture or use this logic or expose this problem with the organization], you will shut them down.".

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  I agree that thinking that you'll spring an amazing question on a JW that they can't answer, will get them out, probably won't work.

  But from my own experience, little annoying truths might eventually make a difference. Maybe I shouldn't say annoying but disturbing.

  I'm presently working on a "sister" at work. She knows that I don't believe it's the truth anymore but has that duo thinking going on. Yes it's ok to talk to me as long as I don't discuss scriptures and maybe she can help me....

  When ISIS was going around destroying artifacts and buildings, she lamented over the loss of art. I said well, they think of them as pagan. The Israelites went around destroying temples and art too. Then I shrugged. ISIS is just doing the same thing I said. Deer In Headlights Stare.

  ISIS throwing homosexuals off the building - Israelites gutting women and children.... Stare.... She didn't talk about ISIS after that.

  It may never get her out, but there may be other incidents she'll experience that will cause her to reflect on these disturbing examples and her view of the "truth" might change.

  See for me, the Dateline show from 20+ years ago and an elder saying at a bookstudy "we don't need to tell the truth" (meaning we could lie) were saved up for years until other things happened.
  
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  Christian Farm

  by Ray Frankz in

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  by the time i'm in this forum i suppose plenty of you have already made the obvious comparison between the wt and many totalitarian kinds of government.. based on the 1984 novel by orwell, a satiric comment about the socialist regime, it's amazing how it fits almost perfectly the history of the wt.. the farms= the christendom (mainly ruled by the roman catholic church).

  the animal farm = the bible students group.

  the pigs = the wt leaders in brooklyn.

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  Eerie how Orwell understood how it all works, isn't it?

  Thanks for taking the time to write it out like that. I'm not sure I could read Animal Farm again (so annoyingly true about the WT) so having a list of the major points makes it simple to remember as well as the comparison of the wT.
  
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  What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

  by flipper in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnT9LmmlLXw
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  Today's Text for J.W.'s

  by The Fall Guy in

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  's perverted & self-condemnatory language is inescapable.

  "......but what does this tell us about our enemy satan?.........

  he certainly does not have a soft spot for children.

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  days of future passed

  We can't even count on the angels to help us out because they have to keep Jehovah's chariot detailed. Oh but god has given us weapons to defeat this lion. We only have to wave the Watchtower and Awake magazines in his face to make him cower.
  
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  Return of the Dub (plus surprise guest)

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  return of the dub (plus surprise guest)dealing with just one frisky, bright-eyed jehovah’s witness is a handful.one on one is manageable.

  two jw’s is more like juggling chainsaws or french kissing alligators.i had a return visit the other day and now, the jw was returning the 2nd time, but with another dub.what would my strategy be?

  that’s how the day was spent.

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  days of future passed

  Haha All the scriptures that were meant for you, will now be used on Cheerful Earl to rid him of those uneasy thoughts.

  And like Vivian Leigh in Gone With the Wind, the elder will advise that "Tomorrow is another Day" and smile.

  But I imagine that Earl will keep in my mind several points. One being what you said about your Grandfather and all those religious salesmen. Another being how to view events in a different light. Those might rattle around in his brain for a long while.
  
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  What Type of Elder Body Did You Have?

  by minimus in

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  i was an elder in two different congregations and both were conservative and strict, especially congregation number one.

  it was headed by a former branch servant as they were called back then.

  all elders were by the book.

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  I found the elders in my congregation to be pretty normal. But then, I didn't get into trouble or go around much with them.

  But there was this one elder who was an ex bethelite and was pretty hyper. He always seemed nice but was "extra" spiritual and made you feel pressured. At one time, he did the ministry school and I had a talk in the main hall. I hated writing talks and would do them over and over again. It was a real struggle to do it all and so I would often do the easiest settings. Well at that time, the WT made it even harder on the sisters by making a long list of settings that we HAD to use at least once before we could repeat. Crappy no good jerks who never had to write a householders part too. I couldn't do anything other than the standard setting and I had done it before. So as I sit down at the table, he announces a totally different setting. It doesn't fit the talk. Afterwards he explains that I needed to use the other settings and so he took care of it for me.

  So the next time I gave a talk, I asked another elder if my talk was ok and explained what had happened before. He looked concerned. Next time the CO came, the elder was removed from being the ministry school overseer. Next meeting he humbly admits (in a uber dub way) that he was removed because he sat in the audience while a brother would give a talk, and hold up a sign saying "1 min to wrap up" "30 seconds" etc. He was policing everyone to make sure they followed the rules to a T.
  
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  Funniest or strangest thing to happen to you when knocking on a door

  by usualusername1 in

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  what is the funniest or strangest thing to happen to you or your partner when knocking on doors?.

  mine was seeing a greenhouse with mannequins inside.

  scary...paul.

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  I was with a nice but shy married brother. At one particular door, a teenager opens it and listens. The magazine had an article on how bad things were (surprise) and about terrorists in particular.

  After the brother gives his presentation, the boy suddenly says, Well I'm a Terrorist. The brother was totally shocked but I just started laughing. So the boy just kept adding on to it and I kept laughing because I thought it was a creative way to get rid of us. The brother could only go on with his prepared speech. The dad appeared and said that they weren't interested.

  The brother never said a word about it after.

  The householder in this next story wasn't the shocking part.

  This brother who always seemed good natured found a man outside on his driveway. The man didn't want us there and pointed out that the street was private to which the brother said it was public and he could stand on it. So the bro stood within an inch of the man's driveway and got into a heated discussion. Next thing I knew, they were doing chest bumps and swinging fists. I was shocked that this bro was fighting so I put my hands up and pleading with both "No violence Please" I said it several times. Finally they backed away. The police came and there were warnings given.

  A fine witness indeed.
  
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  Witnesses vying for "who has the biggest trials to cope with"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  it struck me that witnesses have mastered the art of revelling in "trials and problems" that require "enduring".

  of course, the persecution complex, and the paranoia about these "wicked last days" no doubt contributes to this.. if one witness has some health issue, or if another has a family drama, they seem to revel in sharing these stories amongst their witness friends...almost in an attempt to elicit sympathy.. has anyone else noticed this?.

  most normal people though outside of the org, simply recognise that life has its ups and downs, and need to be dealt with..

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  days of future passed

  From what I have observed from my mom - this world should have ended when she was younger and healthier. Now that she has health problems that most "worldly" people expect to happen at some point in their aging, she is shocked and terrified. This wasn't supposed to happen to her. When I go over to her house tho, I do hear about all the operations etc. that other witnesses have had...
  
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  Strangers at my door

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  you won't believe this...i was sitting here a few minutes ago at the dining table in the house where i rent to live.. i'm on my laptop trying to eat oatmeal when i hear the front doorknob rattling.

  obviously, my roommate is fumbling with the lock.. i hear the door as it opens.

  then, strange voices!

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  days of future passed

  Haha weird indeed. If you had been an active JW, you might have thought "God has sent them to me to give a witness" Maybe Karma has sent the man and his daughter to you.

  It would be a strange thing if ex Jw's published their own "sent by Karma" accounts. Unlike how the organization published their made up sent by god, flying book hit suicidal person who studied stories.